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Post by kingnet on Sept 9, 2007 13:02:35 GMT -5
last days aug we play a really good game n u invite me to joint saints... wow its really strange for me that now 2 of ur clanmates calling me haker n unrate game so just caus e they suppouse i hack ...its not the firts time this player talk shiz about me i have talk to u aug about this guy!!!
so if u have some problem with me just dont play with me... but if ur gonna play dont unrate game when u lose plz... play like aug with honor.... if u want rec game i caold even post here... or u may ask ur clanmate for it!!!! well i have not real evidence how u unrate game ... but u know u did it... so this saint now on my bann list cause they r cheeters... thanks n sorry about bothering with this shiz... gl tro the rest of the saints
pd crusade i may ask fork to reset yesterday match point not fair u lose when owning....
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Post by Saint_Fork_Silver on Sept 9, 2007 18:58:02 GMT -5
Anyways, I don't think Net cheats. Also I don't think Saint's cheat. If anyone thinks anyone else cheats, just report it on the IGZ forum.
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Post by Saint_Bobby_1031 on Sept 9, 2007 20:39:45 GMT -5
Hmmm well who are these Saints?
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Post by kingnet on Sept 9, 2007 21:47:07 GMT -5
welll ur as a mod know that 1v1 2v2 can be unrate dont know how but i have pass me like 6 or 7 times n igz can do nothing... this guy im talking is blacout or somethink like that..... but thanks problem solve i hacv e talk to aug...
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Post by Saint_Crusader on Sept 10, 2007 10:54:10 GMT -5
King Net, I am glad you brought this issue here as our clan only get better through realizing ourselves and imperfections.
But, I must say that I am more dissapointed in you.
I investigated that map you were hosting in 1v1 and I discovered that you are hosting a "Cheat" map. The title of your 1v1 map is called 1v1 Store No Bug. I put it onto aokts and there is not a single added trigger(So why is it called No bug?). The Map you are hosting was designed solely to give the host an edge in 1v1. Your rule "No deleting" is ironic because there is approximately 2 razes in middle. Basicaly that makes it more then easy for you or your opponent to make 3 razes. Who-ever makes the first 3 razes wins the game practically.
I also find it very funny that there is a bunch of useless junk(Units) on the map to confuse any newbie(Everyone, but you). MCB Shadow would use this same technique to get his rate very high. The only difference is that he made his Store map so confusing to such an extreme that no one likes join his hosted games anymore.
Also I am not surprised why you give the option of choosing between Celts, Vikings, or Aztecs[(Same Civs)NO RANGE]. You practically garanteed the fact that who-ever gets the first three razes, wins.
Basically once you tie all of these so called new features to store, you successfully win in Confusing your opponent(Player 2), the newbie to the map will be wandering which each thing does and even when he finaly sends his martel out to destroy the mid, he will finally realize that the middle tower had a ap plus with archers garrisoned inside. As soon as the confused player begins to retreat and heal, you come in and pick up the two middle razes. You then quickly move to get the easy picking of a house located just inside player 2s base. By that time, player 2s martel is still healing and can do nothing. You get the raze, you get a king, and you get a martel. No one can delete and so they are left with no chance.
I want you to give me one explanation for hosting this map, because as far as I see it, you are only taking advantage of other players. It is an unofficial map and has no need to be played and hasn't contributed to anything.
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Post by kingnet on Sept 10, 2007 15:20:18 GMT -5
well nice analisis crusade ur nice at that stuff but ur not correct bro is some points.... 1 i use to play this map not cause it giove me advatage with the other player, i us e just cause has 3 razings u can easy get.= 1+marttel. 2 as i talk to u on game (p2) have plus cause ur really close to higger land so it make (host) marttel have leess oportunity againt ur tower units n ur marttel. 3i dont know what ur referring with junk units..... 4i use vick hunes celts n japs with one reason: firts i dont us e to play celt n japs just but players dosent like hune or even vick so most of time they ask me to change cive to celt n japs n why us e hunes n vick easy... this civs r hava fast imp...n fast games . 3 i play trhis map agiant noobs againt experts againt all i not making abad use of it... u can ask ice wright he have play that map againt me n own me.... noobs still be noobs no matter the map u use i hjave even own on 2-1map on first mins marttels on high lands n they c all me haker cause they hit first but dont know i have pluss 4 i could show like 20 record of 1600 n 1700 players but expert that have own me on this map... FINAL POINT... ill show the secret of this map. (but now i wont play this againt saint cause of this reason) the point to win this map is really marttel.... but not the way u show. if ur red player y must run to cliffs but not to towers so r will be closer to blue n on higger lands the point is kill his marttel but hitting with out get hit u it need alot of skill but if u ca do it u can beat all heroe s in all maps if u cant beat the marttel there s still 2 options a) u get food all u can kill so can get imp first n get another marttel B) u can camp on u gate n make patrol to hid e ur marttel n donte let host get the thirt rasing n lost marttel.... like u see this map give u alot of ways to own . i reallly hard to be host n own this map cause u need to choose one strategy n try to guess what red is gonna do on few segs.... that map dont give host extra power up or extra advantage....
if u have study a map not rreally ur problem.... if ur playing 1v1 nm u click in pick same civ but u dont know map buit u still agrre for playing its ur own problem... u need to ask host to change map that u know or if u lose dont blame host of knowing the map .
pd 1/crusade ill ask u more if ur mapp developer to use the correct words... u tlak about a cheet map... CHEET MAP= map in wich one player have more hp on hero more pop extra king extra marttel spies or some shizt like that... this map is not cheet u have the same stuff for all players... if u talk about player advantage u can talk about all game in wich middle player reach faster the higger middle. about name bro im not developer i dont name n im not the map creattor ... 2/ ask ur clan leader why on kc u use hunes n not spanish or turk(aswer: its fast game) same for this map 3/ tower or not the reall good stuff even with plus u dont get hit if u dont get stuck.... archers r better over the matttel than tower no next time u can pick them of n use it with martte to own mine.... 4on resume all u said is that map give host adv if it play againt a noob or player that doent know map... 11 that not cheet bro it just have more experience on aoe is like when i join king i dont know excal map n aug artur kings n ice beat me that isn give more adv to any playeres it just i have no experience....
so resume : **** dont play game u haven play ...or if u play dont blame host cause u dont knoe map n u agree to play... ****Store No Bug its not cheeted map.... ****i use that civ like all to make game fast. logicaly the one that us e a cheeted map is a cheeter... so u call me cheeter... so if im a cheeter i must be a bad player....
im so f**k n pissed of specific saints calling me haker or cheeter.... so u can ask ur clan leader imf ima noob that need to cheet or hack to own games.... yesterday i own aug on 1v1 kc im not a noob !!!! all week have lost againt him 1v1 kc im not cheeter n hacker!!!! so .... cruzade ill ask u to host this "cheeted map" so ill be red n look if u have pluss been host... just plz call me on week end ....
sorry about my english wish u understand it if not fell free or ask me any shiz!!!
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Post by kingsaladin on Sept 10, 2007 17:25:47 GMT -5
Chins and mayans build plenty fast...And if your realy worried about building speed then use turks lol. But gun civs are boring...very boring.
And Crusader it says Im a Conclave member still...
Net lets 1v1 KC!
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Post by Hunter on Sept 10, 2007 17:58:46 GMT -5
I like the sounds of gun civs How are they boring?
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Post by Saint_Oscar on Sept 10, 2007 20:19:52 GMT -5
Well i beated net on that map.... its not really that confusing i just went to middle and got razes... He dosnt had murderholes and i had hill, and i was p2 so it was me really that had the advantage.
But.... i think its better to use normal 1-2....
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Post by kingnet on Sept 10, 2007 21:54:56 GMT -5
vuala!!! thanks oscar.... weell was bad week mis skills dont apear!!! u need give rematch....
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Post by Saint_Crusader on Sept 11, 2007 10:56:07 GMT -5
King Net, the difference is that you know the map. You advertised Mini CB Store in your game room and that is what I expected. Even when players host Exscobar Store or Legends store, they usualy advertise it as such. Also if you must know, the reason why there is 2-1, 7-6, 3-2 and 1-3 at the end of mini cb Store is because that is betas released by TW_Daren. When he edits the map, he makes a new name with new numbers after it. I had no idea you were going to whip this map on me and even when we were in the game room, I said that I didnt trust this map and I would prefer KC. The whole point of store was tooken out of this map with the two razes in middle and no del rule. I was not familiar with the map and on first try, I will most likely not win you. Knowing that I know now, (Back part behind castles is useless, garrisoned archers, extra razes, useless units), I will most likely win. The difference though is that map is not helping anything, but your rate. It seems like a cheap trick to get points against newbs. And I do know how to play store, but I never did know how to play mini cb store "No Bug."
And the title speaks for itself, the title was used to coax players into not leaving while it was falsely advertising. If it was 2-1 No bug, it would of have had no bugs with no extras included. In keeping the 2-1, I was tricked into mistaking the map. I also looked to see if any triggers were added, and they wern't. No bug means nothing but a coaxing name. The map is not a challenge and its a point grabber.
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Post by Saint_Oscar on Sept 11, 2007 11:34:24 GMT -5
Yeah crus is right... cuz if u using 1-2 No Bug should be a version of mcb store 1-2 whit no bugs no extra stuff, so i beated u, cuz i understood the map right away and most 1v1 use wierdo maps... and i am used to it, like shadow using hes 50 extra unit map (useless ones), just to confuse the player... so u should use normal 1-2 and have np.
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Post by kingnet on Sept 11, 2007 18:40:21 GMT -5
the point is when a fine is lading u dont have a gun on agun to still there if agree of playir is ur responsability dont pblame other... i have play a mcb store that shadow did but dont know if its the same... but the fisrt time i plye y toka fast look around maybe i lost 10 seg on but still have base king hero the same for this version if u look ur tower look units there look higger lands n protect only ur base there no a dv for host it just common player use tu buy marttel n run to midle to get raz its stupid ... ok ur not a expert on store but im at leat good on that shiz so usully noobs send marttel there n lost themcaus e expert team with his marttels n own them.... so i dont put agun to play new game i dont tell hims to run to middle to own raz.... i dont use this mat tu n get higger my rattin lñook its 1600+++ if i was ratting freack i be on top 5 of igz n dont play againt reall good players like ice n aug .....(1v1) maybe ur a designer or map n more e xperience on that but im a aoe user of store map n my experience said not true host give adv of red n why i choose that game cause i like it... so neext time a saint or shoogun that join to a 1v1 againt plz dont acept or ask me to change map cause im gonna host 1-2 no bug i dont wanna get call cheeter noob hacker n now ratting freack before!!!! n what u said about knowing a map 6 month early upd was on on top with cbfs a map apear every week (edited created etc etc) if u join a udp u dont know what map host gonna play sometime u dont know maps n uf ur not agood player die . so who blame a player for hosting new mapps... so for me it just a time waste still arguing about this... cause i like to have 3 razings n have 2 marttel n make a fgast game no matter i lose or win.... n u never change ur opinion cuse ur not a store player just a map creator n maybe good on other maps but not store... so if u still have problems with the us e of that map u could talk igz to do ashiz againt it.... i recomend take care of other maps that really cheet like fake 1-2 version that give spies to host team.... n there alot of ppl playing that shiz.... gl to all saint pd aug i need arematch about yesterday game!!!!
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Post by Saint_Oscar on Sept 12, 2007 6:26:05 GMT -5
Man sry, no te entendi nada.
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Post by AKC_Pico on Sept 12, 2007 12:56:48 GMT -5
hmm i c thers alot of drama going on eh?
btw nice sig oscar ;D
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